He felt that the question could be re-phrased to say, "Homosexuals are socially menaced," and added that the homosexual was more likely to be a menace to himself than to society. In his opinion, "paranoids--latent homosexuals" and "psychopath s--some of which are homoerotic" were the ones who were really dangerous to society. He felt that most overt homosexuals were not psychopathic. He thought that perhaps some of the harsh laws regarding homosexuals should be changed while sti 11 pro tecting children from either heterosexual or homosexual attack.

Dr. Robbins, a newcomer to the panel, took a rather broad view of the subject and thought that it was a vast problem not be compre hended within the confines of any pat phrases. It was a problem which was "as broad as it is long" and "it doesn't begin someplace or end someplace" considering that 100% of the population has a certain amount of latent homosexuality in them. He took issue with Dr. Deobler that homosexuality was a sickness and stated that it was not a sickness or disease as doctors commonly understand the term. It was, he said, for the most part an adjustment to life. It might be a good or a bad adjustment for the particular individual involved, but it was still an adjustment. He dited the example of

a healthy tree which grew in an arc shape instead of straight up. It was a beauti ful tree and shaded children at play. It was a useful tree. Was it sick because it didn't grow straight up as the ideal concept of trees had decreed? He mentioned the group ideal that all men should be six feet tall and the women have beauti ful bosoms but that noone was considered "si ok" if he or she didn't have the se happy attri butes. To know whether a homosexual is "sick" or a 'menace to society" one must study the particular person involved and know his personal problems and how he feels about his homosexuality. He also disagreed with Dr. Deo bler on the point of "paranoids". He said that he wished life were so simple so simple that all one had to do to "cure" a "paranoid" was to help him release his latent homosexuality. Unfortunately, he said, it was perfectly possible to be an overt homosexual and al so a paranoid.

Sgt. Rock stated that insofar as the Police Department had contact with homosexuals there was little doubt that they were a social menace. He cited the fact that the re were certain hotels, parks, movie houses and bars whe re